Chocofur.com6. Looks to me like they are providing a very content creator friendly environment. For this, it is certainly the most pleasant place to sell models I know right now. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. This concept is not new and it seems to work well over here (http://market.envato.com/) CGtrader staff admits to some degree to this problem (see the comment of Dalia Lasaite) and promises to redesign the homepage. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. What I eventually hope to have is a healthy fair open market place, where collaboration , communication, people empowerment and evolution prevails over control systems, central power structures, monopolistic thinking, and maintaining of a status qou. And something ells , I have seen people criticize the young inexperienced and even blame them to some point for some negative experiences over here. We at NoneCg think that both CGtrader and Sellers will benefit from the exact opposite policy. But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. I have to be honest about my view else who am i. Thank you. - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. ;). Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points.
I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Noise Treshold: On "woman", print-ready jewels and scanned models again come in the way. And for good sales you don't need to be there neither because its just your own clients you swing to them. It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. @tomislavveg, on the one hand i agree with you about that, but on the other hand if i would be looking for models i would almost certainly choose TS as my first choice and most likely as a last one before buying. [google14]url:http://www.google.com. 2. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. Money rules! Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. You have to choose a category to get a refresh. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. It sells almost nothing, except, perhaps, with very low prices. It was the most unpleasant experience. 2. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. I have met a bunch of really good artists here that I have had the pleasure of working with. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. They have more traffic so i'm told. TurboSquid be avoided guys! I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. Turbosquid.com4. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. Same for me, here. They had shoddy products but they created the illusion of having something amazing and that was better than a PC. Sales site defending exclusivity trying to find ways to seduce (like the famous CheckMate) but this has no return. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. That's just an easy question to answer 1. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Large studios with "turbosquid" collaborate very limitedly.
While i've heard that TS support isn't that great in practice and they always tend to exploit sellers, but impression that they're making on buyers must be really good. Maybe they think Ts provides almost same model but its just better, etc. Change Method. Don't know how many even bother to ask, and on Ts no one can ask anything. After all everyone can afford to put down 1 dollar so it is reasonable. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. Turbosquid bites the hands that feed them: Brittney Briere, Sep 18, 09:53 SST: If the assumption is correct that a client goes to TS by default as a reflective action, "huh, there's another site, didn't know that! Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. Hello. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. @skifx, apparently your feeding hand is just too small. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. I guess it is because of the youth of the site, which has not yet reached its maturity. Then we're all back at Square one again. They just took multiple of my most expensive items and run for it. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. https://www.fiverr.com/pixel512/create-a-3d-model-shipping-container During all these years we always felt Turbosquid favored a sort of chaos and unfair competition between sellers because they were profiting a lot from that lack of understanding and cooperation between content creators. Maybe they would understand that sellers can't be treated as slaves. Cgtrader really goes above and beyond with the customer service side of things. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community.
I would even make the prediction that most of what will be left of Ts (following months) are the exclusive sellers, they will probably get very frustrated and come over here no matter what deals they made with Ts. We even stopped publishing new models there. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. 3D is great for creating things that can restore old products. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). [quote]2. Absurd as it may sound, a lot of customers doesn't even make a simple "XXXX 3D model" search and go to Turbosquid just because that's a name they heard before. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. Then someone from cgtrader decided that he likes 3dprinting sooo much. Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. I hope ideas of exclusivity get replaced by inclusive ones all over the globe. Allot of snags and details need to be worked out in order to make this sorts of things happen but the main idea here is to have complimentary forces working together to make a better product. What would be your opinion? the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. 3. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". In previous post the buyer mentioned he don't get reputation points for buying models? No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Chat with Support 24/7 So click on a category. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. And between CGTrader and TurbuSquid, I think, let everything will be decided in a reasonable competition. Of course Matt Wisdom was disoriented and he was associated with Pixel SQUID bankruptcy. Ps. At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. An important factor for many buyers is the possibility of cash transactions in the system WebMoney. All because of search. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. Free3d.com7. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ Yes CGtrader is great! Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? (e.g. just 2 years ago still existed. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment Build your own Brand with your own criteria and goals. And saying only nice words won't help them much. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! If you look at the traffic statistics, TS ranks around 9k top sites, and CGT at around 42k, so obviously, people buy more at TS not because they want to spoil the sellers, but rather because they don't come to CGTrader enough and their first place to search is TS. Animated Camel 3D Model 13. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. At least some aspects of it. Let's give some time to time. I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. Do not forget to check out rigged vehicles, guns and other objects, including environments, in addition to rigged characters to increase the control and interactivity you can achieve in your project. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. - CGTrader pays immediately; TS waits until the end of the month. Realistic Female 3D Model. This is critical information (to me at least) in regard to evolution and overall development of the products and services you want to deliver. The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. I left all but . Then I contacted Eduardas and Mantas who refused to remove the rating, Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856?referral=pit_zavra Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. TS staff do their best and is not responsible for the strategic choice of TS Spider-Man (Rig) for Maya Shaders is a new section that we recently added. Basically, they continue to sell their previous models or are selling non-liquid assets. I was ,,Diamond ,, since 2008, they stole items and they never gave me the money . etc That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. You are just providing a platform." for someone that is a little more unique. I don't know if that is still the case ( and I have no desire to check ) but that is advertising that is hard to beat. The biggest problem with TS is that it is a pyramid scheme if you have a diamond account you have a good chance of selling models but at the low levels you have no chance. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. Brittney Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. A real pointless task. The longing to justice is something that cannot be eradicated, the hole of human history shows that clearly. Then someone ells will just create another CGt alike and Ts would have to keep buying these places ones a year, and after that it would have to buy them every month. Just my fifty cents. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. I will leave the items here to see if cg trader does manage to change things around over the next 12 months and if not will simply sell them on turbosquid. Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. My personal experience, having had a short stint as a 3d print seller on Turbosquid, is that they paint with way too broad a brush when it comes to potential IP infringement. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. Its great way to compete and fair . Since then, I think the design has gotten much better, especially the separation between regular CG and 3D print, and the search algorithm seems also to be much more efficient. [google7|http://www.google.com] In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. And IMHO search is an area where CGT shoul focus first. Ebay and Amazon would be great for the cartoony non realistic stuff as well as 3D prints so long as people make sure to document the files appropriately and let people know it is 3D and not real. Don't know if it's already mentioned in this thread, but in TS you have a refund system, when customer buyed your product has ability to bring back his money and it'll subracted from your earnings, if he doesn't like a model for some reason. The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. And reasons can be any. "google8":www.google.com, google10 A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. Buyers tend to look for things based on the category and budget and like to be able to put two products side by side to compare them and get a better understanding of why one is better than the other or which product is more suitable for them as an individual. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. https://garagedoorrepairnewportnews.com/garage-door-spring-repair/, Hey, The site owners could also act on other various levels : At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. Marius Kalytis (founder of this place) was a 3D artist himself and took notice of the questionable policy's the established market had adopted (leaving room to do it differently). Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? @dafunk @S/C. I'm done with them. Thanks iterateCGI, from the start we thought it will be best to expose the issues publicly, so other cg 3D sellers can see for themselves what they are exposed to when dealing with Turbosquid. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). We previously sent you final warnings about your non-compliance with our Best Prices policy. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience.