Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. It still should not come off. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Is the Nordic still a problem? Finished with three matte protective coats. Thanks. I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural. G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. They look closer to the raw wood tone. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. Thanks so much in advance!! It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. I have about 735 sf. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. think it turned out well. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). The water-based products are also much easier to work with. It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? Here are some of my samples. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. white oak hardwood flooring. Post back here with a link if you get more answers than I did or if you go with white! I did a lot of research before deciding on what product to use and how many top coats to use. Granite and Quartzite have completely different make-ups. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. @Bongo. ! Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! There are MUCH better systems out there - especially in the water based finishes. Photos would be helpful. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. Get ready for a LONG story! I have read so many wood floor horror stories. It was not supportive or helpful. The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. Thanks so very much Shannon. For a house your size and a $50k budget. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. The supplier may help you out. Its for a new build. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. I cannot find any locally. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. Here are some of my samples. If you are someone who loves the look of the 'raw floor' but you HATE the hazy look of NaturalSeal, then I HIGHLY recommend going with the satin. Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! I also read you dont want to go too thin. Which one did you end up going with? Do you think there is any major issue with this? Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. Those are STUNNING! This is what G & S was responding to.a quick scan of your answer (I'm guilty of it myself some times) can give the impression that everything was done same day (which it wasn'tbecause I asked about the LAST coatnot the timeline to reach last coat). Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. Thank you for your feedback. They just don't get any DARKER over time. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. This is part and parcel of your payment. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. Argh. Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. WebApplication of the sealer will alter the chemical structure of the porous sandstone or natural stone providing a excellent water repellent and stain resistant surface. I knew this was IT. LOVE, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Its typically the primary color in gardens. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. Sigh. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". . By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. what made you decide to go with natural. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Nice, eh?! Thanks for the responses. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. We are building next year and making decisions now. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. Think NCAA and NBA courts. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? Gravity works. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. One other question. Here are some of my samples. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 Apply the second coat. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. I know this is a flooring product but the color was almost perfect. can you share any pix? How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. Don't test just with sealer. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. Heres a photo of our family room. They should be able to get the job done for you. They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. Please leave this post up. Show me your white oak floors w duraseal country white or Bona white! 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The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Yes. :), McCarthy September 15 2020 post question about last sentence, or anyone please+sealant. Look forward to more pictures. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? One more thing, the rooms Ive put this flooring in are the master bedroom, guest bedroom and an office, so no heavily trafficked areas. 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There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. Would love to see finished product! Mega turns yellow. Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. Several dollars per square foot would be expectedthen you add the $4-$5/sf for the finish. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. That means you relate clean with shiny. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. Can you share the color? We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. William Smith, D.D., was You should look it up. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. It must be sanded down and done again. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. A red oak floor does not need sealant. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. We are having the same dilemma with our cabinets. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? Getting gloomy from cool gray? Please convince me not to settle with maple. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. . If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. I am very picky with the stones I purchase. I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! Hd and Supra extra matte does not. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! Absolutely, I can see that. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Very patient. Thank you. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. Sigh. and any photos would be most appreciated I like the bona nordic white look in the 2nd photo (thats covering about 20 wood squares) is that the semi-gloss Loba, (or perhaps raw, freshly sanded parquet - that is the look i'm going for my wood finger parquet, lightened / whitewashed with the red/yellow/ambering removed and the seal to be almost matte. Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. Nice when a risk pays off . A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). Milesi Natural 2k? Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. I would rather find a cabinet line that carries white oak in this stain than go with a cabinet maker. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? However, I think the maintenance is much harder than what I previously had - natural red oak with a higher sheen. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean?