Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. I do know its about mid charge range tho. and 8 lb. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. JavaScript is disabled. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. Does it make a difference? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. JavaScript is disabled. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. Better to be too careful than blow something up. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. You cannot paste images directly. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. Can't keep enough at the house. Paste as plain text instead, tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. Thanks for your patience. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . Skip this one, you can do better. I found anything much lower to be too weak. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. You say that now. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. Makes an impression on you. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. I am using CBI pistol powder. Why? Boris_La . Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. Reply Quote. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. Display as a link instead, 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. By A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Feb 27, 2020. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I want to be safe. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. Upgrade efforts paused for now. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. Your previous content has been restored. Wish i could find it again. When I first learned it was long before Algore had invented the net. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! C.O.A.L. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. You can post now and register later. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. 2.8 gr. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . This is safe, yes? and 8 lb. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Nuff said. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. We will pass. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. I`m using 3.8 gr for the plated, and 4.2 gr for the JHP. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. behind a 115gr. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Thanks for the input everyone! YMMV. Close w/ TG can be problematic. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. Appreciate the input. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. Seen a few of those over the years. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. When we are sold out, we are sold out. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Upload or insert images from URL. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. It's accurate and reliable. The desire to know, when, how, and if he should take these shots along with an unquenched thirst for competition, lead Brian to shoot precision rifle events. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. For 9mm, with Sierra 115 fmj, 4.8gr of Titegroup. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. containers. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. Use the LRN and you will be good. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. So filling up half way looks normal. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. Hope this helps some others develop some loads. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance.
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