Ok. we still want to see evidence. We all sin. Coy is guilty. Two years later, a Calvary Chapel in Laguna Beach fired its pastor for adultery and embezzlement but Smith quickly rehired him to preach at the nearby Costa Mesa church. Jesus transforms, not a pastor. As I made comment on those who did, others jumpe in and made each a Luther discussion. 14 And they shall fly down upon the shoulder of the Philistines on the west; together shall they spoil the children of the east; they shall put forth their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them. [7] OK, then dont tempt them by giving them too much power and authority. And I pick up the pieces of sins wake daily. In that you are named well. You have already repeatedly embarrassed yourself with your manner and content. His idea was a huge hit, one of the first in a wave that has become known as the Jesus movement. David, Jerry Falwell despised Bakker because of his theology and his lifestyle. Do you worship Jesus as God incarnate, The Lord, The Creator, The Giver of Life? Martin Luther wanted it thrown out along with James and a couple other books. "We take every allegation of abuse seriously and our prayers are with all those involved as they pursue redemption and healing. Maybe thats a byproduct of not letting women hold leadership positions. I love him as my true brother in the Lord and because his weakness overtook him will not change that. Cue the anthem.. Its crazy that people think Bob Coy had ONE affair, caught a conscience about it and decided to step down. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that Bakker still owes the IRS about $6 million. The language of this episode smacks of a scenario like the one I just described. And what about the women who throw themselves at a man saying suggestive things zany wearing provocative clothing with the intent of tempting them? They were expecting it. Its all good. Dear Lorenzo, you know so little of genuine Christianity, and you know nothing of me or others here. The next year, he raised an insane $103 million in donations the most by a single megachurch to date. For me involves simply the interest in private conversation with people outside my circle. 7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Pray for Pastor Bob, his wife and family and the CC Ft. Lauderdale staff and congregation. He didnt go after anyone who left. The problem is that youre not with Christ Jesus, who looked at Peter with compassion, but youre with a different being, an angelic being who accuses the brethren day and night! And then he quotes passages that dont contain the words he said Jesus said. In fact, at least eight pastors, staffers, and volunteers in Calvary Chapel's network around the United States have been charged with abusing children since 2010. I dont think so, would the owner of a Christian blog be joining in the attacks and ridicule directed towards a fallen brother? You do not know amillennialism from duck squat. The church Coy helped build has moved on without him, but the national Calvary organization has struggled. Lots of stories here. And continue to be fed where you are but continue to ask God to show you where you need to be. Didnt God provide for this with the whole concubine thing. this Calvinist preterist teaching is a rotting festering leaven in the body of Christ today!, Wow Ill let my reformed friends know that theyre not really saved because Hugh said so. One adversary is seduction. 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the land; and he shall smite the land with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. So his wife and kids just need to realize that this is the reality of life and BC is no worse or better than the average man, perhaps even a better man a stronger man, who is going through this facing the ravenous wolves that most of you have become! Bob Coy is the tip of the iceberg and gets special attention because of his position, but his fellow sinners are legion. Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane, it is affiliated with the Calvary Chapel movement. At the time, God was pretty much restricted to Israel and a few surrounding areas. Revelation 20:6. Am I reading that Coy bought out churches and did not use a large chunk of the 103 million raised and praised by Chuck to build out their new campus? Sources tell Charisma News there was a positive response from the staff and congregation. Hes too plugged in there. Is an argument really being expressed that the reporting of the news should have waited until after Sunday for Bobs wife and his children? You can listen at their website. Wow I did not know there were so many perfect people in the world. In 2004, he even campaigned with Dubya around South Florida. At that time the services were also being displayed live. Hopefully Bob Coy will be teaching this Sunday. Comments are back on at the CC Abuse blog. Am I close? They are always the main arrows in the enemy quiver that are fiery darts. I forgive him and i still love him. When that sold well, on the spur of the moment they added another day. I hope you all dont choke on these morsels of gossip. CP reached out to Calvary Chapel for further comment but no response was received by press time. Im a line cook (staff member) at Calvary chapels restaurant The Grill, I went to the church staff meeting at 2:30 today (4/6/14) where this information was officially announced. Finally starting to pray. The children inside the vehicle have no pulse except Diane's son Bryan. See Against Heresies, Book V. He was refuting arch heretics Marcion and Valentinus who taught amillennialism. His church started with just 25 members in a Costa Mesa lot in 1965, but by the mid-2000s, it had grown to include hundreds of affiliated chapels around the nation and internationally plus a lucrative array of radio stations. Unfortunately, many accountability relationships fail for a variety of reasons. Was any reference at all made to the transistion. Also, I notice Chef is no longer listed as a pastor. We are at that place. God takes this specific sin very seriously as He allows for divorce when it takes place. Plantation? Their fellowship there- and their clichs-their high class restaurant-a place to impress non-believers so they can get saved there and their position of importance was more important than standing up for the truth. I understand the severity of this. Even though Jesus said that all of the OT was about him, you pre mil dispies say no Jesus, there are still outstanding promises to Israel you owe them. You represented well. He does need some time out [sorry, lol, seems funny, no pun intended] as he sets himself aside in repentance and prayer as to the Lord, but, sometimes we judge too harshly as if we know all things when it is God who knows all things. You sound like someone that isnt going to listen and repeat blindly without A deeper understanding, youre exactly what the body needs, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword Jesus. I dont care if its Billy Graham, Chuck Smith or John Calvin himself who came back from the dead if they should appear and teach contrary to the word of God, they are to be rejected. Is it a place to raise up believers to Go out and make disciples? Did she die? Its as if he could never do any wrong. Kate Forbes: Would a Christian be permitted to lead Scotland. We who are conservative Christians love to lecture the world about their sins. There is obviously far more to the story that I dont have sufficient verification on. Can you provide some more info links, etc.? Revelation is mixed with both things fulfilled and things unfolding. Im learning all about a day in the life of MLD. Dont let the fact that Bob Coy does this or that dont let your lack of trust for Michael or Alex keep you from cleaning up your own life and actions. The core issue is a sense of self oriented privilege that arises from the prestige and power. Michael Newham, have you ever committed adultery? This year, Calvary has been hit by even more sexual abuse claims. Im asking sincere questions. As per the recent report, his net worth is $ 5 million. Lastly, if the assumption of some is correct (that Coy will re-surface soon..to be reinstated), would any mature believer out there choose to sit under the teaching of a re-cycled pastor in favor of a shepherd who will lead Gods flock with integrity of heart? Why? "He was just transparent, and he could be very funny as well. fscaduto, WELL PUT and that was precisely my point early on. I must say that in knowing very little about the build up to this story, it appears that the church took much faster action in dismissing Coy than in the case of Mike Kestler. Jesus builds a church,not a pastor. Flynn, one cannot separate doctrine from practice; the two do not exist separately. Regardless of what Bob has done, that should not interfere with our relationship with God, we have to stand strong in our faith and love for Him. If there wasnt grace then all would be toast. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great citywhich is figuratively called Sodom and Egyptwhere also their Lord was crucified. I remember him saying many times, do not put your faith in man because man will let you down including me, put your faith in God. He is human, I will be praying for him and his family. Look up all the scenes with thrones and Gods people gathered around and determine if it is on earth or in heaven. He boasted of a vast media reach. He also earned more than $100,000 from The Masters Seminary the same year. Hugh, Yeah, I agree completely with Neo, You really, really need a hug. And if you read June one of the comments I believe she really got it right. But that doesnt mean you are any less capable of doing the same bad things you did before you were officially savedand the mindset is that, Well hed never do that, hes been transformed by the power of Jesus!well, no, that isnt true. If you believe the preterist Calvinist view Ive got a bridge in San Francisco I can sell you! One problem with doing research, particularly through the internet search engines, is that you will find whatever you are looking for. In 1968, he moved to California building hot rods by day and working as a machinist at Disneyland during the night. We have an enemy and it is not Pastor Bob. Thank you. I have a feeling there are many surrounding churches that are getting ready for the mass Exodus out of CCFL. Muhammad Ibn-Raqib : You are so right ! Is Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel still living? No one seems to care about that. Restoration is step three. I may know what she is feeling, how she is running it all over and over in her head trying to make sense of it, trying to protect her family. DIANE COY Diane was born and raised in Southern California where, as a high school senior, she gave her heart and life to Jesus as her Lord and Savior. Sounds like the sin isnt what concerns you but its about the money. Below is a summary of our core beliefs which are developed in more detail in the Westminster Confession of Faith, the Westminster Larger Catechism, and the Westminster Shorter Catechism. Perhaps Michael or Alex could follow up with that and find out. I have visited Potential Church and Church by the Glades and they fall under the seeker resurrgence apostasy movement, watered down gospel, entertainment, FALSE church. Coy's faithful didn't know it, but just over a year after the pastor's resignation for adultery, Coral Springs Police launched their investigation into a far worse allegation. My hearts desire was for healing and restoration of the many people he hurt and for his repentance. They could not even think for themselves. It was about Joshua getting into the promised land-thats why I had thought it was graduation. I have consciously stopped being friends with certain guys because there was too much of a bond being created that could have gone on to be something more. I dont remember much of it. (1 Cor. Jesus really dropped the ball. what is your real motives for this? Literally, from the time of my outcries it took 10 years, many spiritually manipulated and demonized women, and a pregnant young woman (not his wife) to cause the church and his wife to finally kick him out. http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/pastor-bob-coy-the-church-adultery-consequences-and-grace/. The superstar life isnt good for anyone. 22:20), The Lord Jesus Christ commands all believers to proclaim the gospel throughout the world and to make disciples of all nations. But the Bible tells us to care about both. The story has hit the local news in Fort Lauderdale now http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-calvary-chapel-resignation-20140406,0,5071679.story. Reforming catholicism doesnt work. HMMMMM Heretic, this sound more like what I have heard. Stop being so vindictive and pray for a Christian brother, his wife and children. Bobs a decent guy who did a ton of good world wide lets look at that as well. He even had his own brother stand in front of thousands to apologize. The subject was brought up suggesting that church and Flynn was correct in most of his post which addressed those issue. Did Jesus only die for Christians? and also, after reading the article in Charisma, The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him .. uh, what about for the congregation?????? 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. There are lots of passages, verses, and phrases that require a spectrum of thought as opposed to a specific non-negotiable position. Of courseleave it to the Pharisees to fight amongst, not for, themselves. Hes resigned so let it be. Sad. Or was it because he was caught? Anon, I cant really say how I know. What about their families? Neither of them has shown their face since all this broke. or fornication? Welcome to those who found this blog due to Bob Coys fall, my heart and prayers go out to you as you navigate this difficult time. It is pride that is the root of that sin. The reformed/protestant groups picked up on it, since they were catholics and knew nothing else. Thanks for the words. If they are true, there is a greater problem than Bob Coys moral failure. Who is Kassanndra Cantrell? If Bob leaves satan wins. Im appalled. Thank you, Nonnie for your prayers for my children! Again, shout it to the masses when its other peoples sins like gay marriage etcor make assistant pastors go before the church and confess (Bob Grenier did that stuff)but grace and mercy and lets give the family their privacy etc when its the Senior Pastors turn to face the music. Ya because he has 20k followers that he lies to daily. I am telling them to let him recover his heart, name and honor. Youre right. Be careful, any of us could be next thats true. Plus, listen to Greg Laurie talk about the situation on Pastors Perspectiveclearly the moral failure wasnt that Coy was driving solo in the carpool lane. Not everyone should stay married for their reputation in a church. Im off to bed. Coy and his family are OUR FAMILY IN CHRIST! Unless you live in this area you have no idea the influence BC has had on it. Thats all Boband I appreciate him greatly. Andy, OK, you go with that but to hold your position you have to call Peter a liar in Acts 2. May the Lord forgive each one of you, as well, who are rejoicing in the fall of a beloved preacher. There may be a comment from a woman soon that may be of interest. Join together in prayer for Pastor Bob Coy and his family! The root of Calvary's problems, critics say, lies in its unique structure. Your soteriological arrogance is nauseating. It works so it is a kind of method of delivery now. Also, your link article suggests that we ought not make a big deal out of it cause he stepped down. All Rights Reserved. {} 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious. Michael, my cell phone is if You have anything youd like to say to me. Isnt this why our precious savior came? Im not doubting your passion for your convictions. Women would come in promiscuous outfits -they would say How do you know it is not a prostitute looking for Jesus? Too bad Christians dont look beyond a mans reputation to the truth. Anything at all? God has not finished the work that He started in this man, and He will work His miracles to restore what we as people see doomed. I know of a young 20 something recent Bible college grad (female) who wrote sermons for him. is it possible you source could be wrong. I never liked him .he was a smooth talker actor on stage and the bigger he became the bigger and cockier he became. Anonymous you mean CCFtl being Pre? What are you talking about? Any ideas? I dont know anything about John Hagee (I dont watch TV), and as for Chuck Missler, I never listened to him. , Matthew 24:15 when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation,[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniellet the reader understand. The case reeks of political favoritism. The good works and true worship rendered to Jesus by the people in this fellowship need to honored, promoted and protected within a leadership environment that regards Jesus and holy and true or they need to be redirected and redeployed elsewhere . We have gone through this struggle around here. Moe- I misquoted the verse- I am usually more astute than that. Repentance is a change of mind, or a conversion from sin to God. Bob Coy, at Liberty University's convocation in 2013. By my count, only 7 including myself have listed your names. Newnham also wrote that Coy was taken off the board membership page for the Calvary Chapel Association, a ministry started by the late pastor Chuck Smith. Why hasnt it been called adultery?? Loss of respect. With a sitcom dad's wholesome looks, a standup comedian's snappy timing, and an unlikely redemption tale of ditching a career managing Vegas strip clubs to find Jesus, Coy had become a Christian TV and radio superstar. Please remember there are family members who may well read the words you are writing one day. Back 160 yrs ago Martin Stephan led the Lutherans from Saxony to America. Mary! You dont have to answer that. Whether you are a participant in CCFL or not, the bigger picture here is that Pastor Bob is not Jesus! As I said above, look how many men think that the light casual joking around is not harmful when they are actually sending out and allowing themselves to receive horny vibes. After doing research, we found that each of these churches are controlled at the top by people who have connections to the ecumenical/interfaith movement and are stealthily drawing the churches into the one world religion of the Antichrist.. I learned to trust God to receive the meat of His word and to spit out the bones of mans opinion. He failed, thats what men do. Jimmy kind of got thrown under the bus, he did not get all of these gracious words for his infraction. It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. Otherwise, at least he doesnt get rich off of Jesus and doesnt bilk people of their money and tows the moral line he lays down. Oh, Florida of little faith! I am Michaels friend and have known him for several years now. The reference is not to Rev 5 But to Isaiah 11, which speaks of the millennium. Krent W. I apologize for my flippant remark to your initial comment at 338. According to a statement from the church at the time, he had confessed to a "moral failing." This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. Unfortunately dont think he should ever be restored to ministry. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they teach., And also with Paul who said in Phil 1:15-18. Born in 1955 and raised in Royal Oak, a suburb north of Detroit, he grew up in a strict Lutheran family but didn't buy into the church. David was a man after Gods own heart. Very long period of time needed for restoration and healing. He resigned. I find it ridiculous to blame cheating on power and authority. In the meantime, I trust we will mourn and pray for a fallen brother. Bob did this, not me. All materials are posted on the site strictly for informational and educational purposes! And in every matter of wisdom and understanding about which the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and enchanters that were in all his kingdom. So what you are saying is if all the other guys had IQs of 120 then Daniel and his buddies had IQs of 1,200? We are told 20,000 attend the church. The cost is too high for all involved. I think I would be interested in other perspectives that the truth is part of the healing process. He submitted to his board and their decision, and they are the ones that are privy to the details not you. His wife was beautiful and she still had competition for her husbands desires. Its a wonderful way to live, Lorenzo. If you were trying to help and that help in some way exposed something evil-there were plans to rid of you. Well, thats simply not true either and not quantifiable. Truth and reality may arise for all involved. one more thing. My anger and frustration with Bob today is finally slipping toward thoughts about those poor souls who have to listen to 3 services of unrelated sermons in order to make it to an afternoon meeting where sadness and disappointment will rule the day. John Macarthur has been teaching that one can take the Mark of the Beast and still be redeemed for more than 30 years. Bob chose to do that. I was feeling horrible.". What is Bob Coy doing now? Miami New Times, which first reported on the child abuse accusations against Coy on Tuesday, said that the 61-year-old founder of the 25,000-member megachurch in Florida is denying the allegations. How I have seen just over the last two days, about where a person goes for Bible interpretation, will make all the difference. They are the ones truly in need of prayer. "The media ministry of the Active Word that distributes his Bible teachings through radio, television and digital media has also been suspended. Amillennialism is for those that refuse to take the Bible literally, and shuck it off as if it just originated in the last 150 years (which is a lie, since all the first believers were against this ghastly false doctrine).
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